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(8:31 AM) Alert: Hi , Welcome to TTT
redliontrader: GM everyone...
(8:32 AM) sttteve: gm
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(8:35 AM) netherbow1: good morning
(8:36 AM) PremR: gm
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(8:43 AM) hibuck2: gooood morning all
(8:43 AM) rjllanas: gm
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(8:45 AM) tomthetrader: Good Morning
(8:47 AM) netherbow1: Does anyone follow JAZZ - not in but it keeps going - anyone know why ?
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(8:48 AM) Fulkdaddy: gm
(8:49 AM) azags: gm I sold some twm again this morning at 35.95 that I bought for the second round trip yesterday at 35.7
(8:50 AM) tomthetrader: JAZZ is a biotech with takoever rumors
(8:50 AM) tomthetrader: Stock is on a tear
(8:50 AM) tomthetrader: should be sold or sold short
(8:50 AM) tomthetrader: had a huge runup
(8:50 AM) netherbow1: thxs TOM
(8:50 AM) tomthetrader: You are welcome
(8:52 AM) azags: One is afraid to hold shorts too long in this bullish environment. qld is down to 44.02 from its close of 44.45
(8:53 AM) Fulkdaddy: art Cashin on
redliontrader: I just finished some research on new highs. Here is a hint for today.. Pull backs during these bull legs have been preceded or confirmed by a pivot in the 5 day MA of NYSE new highs. The current 5 day MA on the NSYE 52 week new highs is 81. In order to kink the MA to create a pivot we need to keep the new highs today below 70
(9:03 AM) tomthetrader: Thanks Red great work ....I am betting we breakdown more than people think now
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(9:04 AM) tomthetrader: Yes : Zags ...seems impossible to hold very long on either side now
(9:04 AM) tomthetrader: you best be very good or in cash or you will get hurt day to day
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(9:08 AM) Fulkdaddy: Or if you have TTT, you can profit from the day-to-day swings!
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(9:08 AM) Fulkdaddy: Glad I put some hedges on at the close.whew!
(9:09 AM) Fulkdaddy: Although, we can't go down....can we??? Probably go down early and TURNAROUND TUESDAY will strike again.
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(9:09 AM) tomthetrader: This time I think we get our 944 SPX Dave
(9:10 AM) Fulkdaddy: cool
(9:10 AM) tomthetrader: I would have kept that Beautiful portfolio if it was going to go up higher !
(9:10 AM) Fulkdaddy: What is the "Second Derivative Recovery"?
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(9:10 AM) tomthetrader: But now we have to wait for a set up which may come today ?
(9:11 AM) tomthetrader: The CDS to CDO mess
(9:11 AM) tomthetrader: deleveraging the delevered !
(9:12 AM) azags: I just sold another 5000 twm in the premarket at 35.97. I take my profits and hide in a cave
(9:13 AM) tomthetrader: Yes ...we will have to decide to add QID or just wait for a long set up
(9:13 AM) tomthetrader: we may go BGZ after a blip up /
(9:13 AM) tomthetrader: With Jim Cramer calling the shots ...we may just go BGZ ...and wait until he says it is OK to come back !
(9:14 AM) azags: I need Thomas to tell me to go in circles rather than long or short. I am happy to buy and sell twm for 1-2 hours
(9:14 AM) tomthetrader: Yes...I say sell rallies for 2 days
(9:15 AM) tomthetrader: BGZ or QID or TYP
(9:15 AM) tomthetrader: TF Futures
(9:15 AM) rjllanas: y
(9:15 AM) ajayvee: g'mornin
(9:15 AM) desertone: Good Morning everyone !
(9:15 AM) rjllanas: gm
(9:15 AM) hibuck2: gm
(9:15 AM) thomas_Poland: gm
(9:15 AM) eman11: gm
(9:16 AM) energy2x: gm
(9:16 AM) azags: Tom your picks long yesterday were very good. I had a few of them dag, mcd lll and fwlt
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(9:22 AM) longerorshorter: thanks tom
(9:22 AM) rjllanas: thanks
redliontrader: Traders 25% short in DGZ, 100% Cash Main and IRA
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(9:25 AM) berniectx: Was there some kind of new short sale rule going into place?? thought I heard something on CNBC yesterday?
(9:26 AM) longerorshorter: had something to do with naked calls i believe bernie
(9:26 AM) berniectx: thx
(9:28 AM) longerorshorter: what about TZA tom
(9:29 AM) rjllanas: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124871727822084391.html berniectx here the article
(9:29 AM) berniectx: thank you
(9:29 AM) tomthetrader: YES TZA
(9:30 AM) longerorshorter: thanks
(9:30 AM) tomthetrader: YES TF Futures YES QID
(9:30 AM) tomthetrader: YES BGZ
(9:30 AM) tomthetrader: It is just the entry on a Trend down day that may give us fits
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(9:40 AM) thomas_Poland: if anybody interested you can find a film about Paul Tudor Jones made in 1987 on youtube
(9:40 AM) thomas_Poland: this film was a "secret" for long time
(9:41 AM) hibuck2: yes i read market wizzard
(9:41 AM) tomthetrader: 10 contracts short here in Traders
(9:41 AM) PremR: thomas do you have a link to that you tube film?
(9:41 AM) tomthetrader: please use SDS or TWM or QID BGZ to equal
(9:42 AM) thomas_Poland: just write his name in search box
(9:42 AM) thomas_Poland: on youtube Prem
(9:42 AM) PremR: ok
(9:42 AM) eman11: ES 976-976.25
(9:42 AM) ajayvee: ES 976.50
(9:42 AM) tomthetrader: or go to slopeof hope.com
(9:43 AM) azags: bought twm at 35.55
(9:43 AM) tomthetrader: 25% TWM 35.55
(9:43 AM) tomthetrader: to Traders
(9:44 AM) tomthetrader: 10 contracts ES short at 976.50
(9:44 AM) tomthetrader: 25% short in TWM at 35.55
(9:44 AM) azags: the low on twm was 35.44 but I got mine at 35.55
(9:45 AM) hibuck2: BGZ @ 28.25
(9:45 AM) tomthetrader: BGZ add 25% 28.25
(9:46 AM) tomthetrader: 75% short here in Traders
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(9:49 AM) tomthetrader: 27.06 we filled our last 25 % FOR 100% SHORT iN traders
(9:49 AM) tomthetrader: 27.05 HERE NOW
(9:50 AM) tomthetrader: WE ARE 100% SHORT HERE AND WILL LOOK FOR INDICATIONS TO BAIL OR TO TAKE PROFITS ...NO STOPS AS OF YET
redliontrader: For those that joined later.. we are trying to keep the NYSE new highs below 70 today.. This will create a 5 day MA pivot in the New Highs that has signaled a pullback in the past.. So far today New Highs are 28
redliontrader: what was that last fill at 27.05 with?
(9:52 AM) tomthetrader: qid
(9:53 AM) azags: I need a short hedge because of my established significant mutual fund position
(9:53 AM) tomthetrader: 25% iN 100% + SHORT WE WILL SELL OUR gOLD POSITION ok red ?
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(9:54 AM) tomthetrader: sell OUR SHORT gOLD POSITION
(9:54 AM) azags: I bought some bgz at 28.15
(9:55 AM) tomthetrader: DGZ 23.79 sold
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(9:57 AM) hibuck2: GJ red
(9:57 AM) tomthetrader: THE CLAP FOR RED !
(9:57 AM) tomthetrader:
(9:57 AM) sttteve: yep he is fast. portfolio already updated
(9:57 AM) hibuck2: good entry azags
(9:57 AM) rjllanas:
(9:57 AM) hibuck2: $PCRCO .74
redliontrader: NYSE A/D weakest today -467
(9:57 AM) PremR: red: that nyse new high signal you are looking at...is that an end of day signal?
(9:57 AM) eman11:
(9:57 AM) hibuck2: $TNX 37.11 3.71
redliontrader: yes, but new highs are accumlative through the day
(9:58 AM) hibuck2: schwab still hvng data problems
(9:58 AM) PremR: meaning if a stock makes a new high but doesn't settle at new high it still counts as a new high?
redliontrader: yes prem
(9:59 AM) PremR: ok thanks.
redliontrader: new highs: 33
(9:59 AM) tomthetrader: Thanks
(9:59 AM) eman11: I have NYSE new highs at 31
(9:59 AM) tomthetrader: Rally
(9:59 AM) PremR: consumer confidence in 30secs
(9:59 AM) PremR: ar probably out early
(9:59 AM) PremR: or+ar
(10:00 AM) PremR: ar+or
(10:00 AM) tomthetrader: GOLD - $9.00
redliontrader: iwm tb
(10:00 AM) azags: in the premarket we could also have bought qld at 44.02 and carried it up a half a point
(10:00 AM) tomthetrader: worse
(10:00 AM) tomthetrader: than expected
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(10:00 AM) tomthetrader: Richmond fed good
(10:02 AM) tomthetrader: sell ES Futures ...now 75% short 10:01
(10:02 AM) hibuck2: hldg BGZ ?
(10:02 AM) eman11: sold ES 974.75
(10:02 AM) tomthetrader: 974.50 covered 10 short
(10:04 AM) eman11: i meant covered ES at 974.75
(10:05 AM) tomthetrader: Good trade E
(10:05 AM) tomthetrader: QID we will sell 25 % at 27.25 limit
redliontrader: oh.oh.. hibuck has data problems.. someone else post AD numbers.. I only have NYSE up -720
(10:06 AM) tomthetrader: sold QID at 27.25
(10:06 AM) tomthetrader: 50% short now
(10:06 AM) azags: Since I don't do futures, I sold 3000 bgz at 28.4 bought at 28.15
(10:07 AM) Fulkdaddy: It seems as though investors are just looking for a reason to sell...the consumer confidence # gave them a reason
(10:07 AM) berniectx: AD NYSE -306
(10:07 AM) tomthetrader: stop BE
(10:08 AM) ajayvee: Naz A/D -246 Vol -1.4:1
(10:08 AM) tomthetrader: Thank you
(10:08 AM) ajayvee: NYSE A/D -764 Vol -1.2:1
(10:08 AM) ajayvee: RUT A/D -409 Vol -1.2:1
redliontrader: TWM B/E Stop is 35.55, BGZ Stop is 28.25
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(10:12 AM) tomthetrader: Great data
(10:12 AM) azags: That force is Thomas!
(10:13 AM) tomthetrader: He doesn't trade his Zlotzkies in the states ...hidden in GDANSK
redliontrader: New Highs: 35
(10:13 AM) hibuck2: premarket high for BGZ 28.66 now at 28.58
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(10:14 AM) tomthetrader: 28.35 stop BGZ 35.65
(10:14 AM) tomthetrader: TWM
(10:14 AM) hibuck2: broke premarket high BGZ
(10:14 AM) hibuck2: push bull off the cliff
(10:15 AM) tomthetrader: sold BGZ 28.67
(10:15 AM) tomthetrader: 10:15 am BGZ sold
(10:15 AM) tomthetrader: 28.72 now
(10:16 AM) hibuck2: just moved stop up
(10:16 AM) tomthetrader: good
(10:16 AM) bitterwind4: still in BGZ stop .65
(10:18 AM) tomthetrader: 28.77 BGZ now
(10:19 AM) tomthetrader: Sold TWM 36.01
(10:19 AM) azags: I just sold 5000 twm at 35.95 bought at 35.55
(10:19 AM) tomthetrader: TREMENDOUS COMEBACK HERE
(10:19 AM) tomthetrader: wtg zags
(10:20 AM) tomthetrader: I am 100% cash looking to reenter
(10:21 AM) bitterwind4: and the SEC says it is ok??
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(10:21 AM) hibuck2: 29.00 is RES on BGZ
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(10:22 AM) rjllanas: ya had a short osition in BGZ
(10:22 AM) don_2007_: looking forward to it.. thx tom
(10:22 AM) rjllanas: postion
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(10:26 AM) hibuck2: these fricking bulls have no fear
(10:27 AM) tomthetrader: it will be a slow grind down to 960
(10:27 AM) tomthetrader: keep shorting rallies next 2 days
(10:27 AM) tomthetrader: Then we will get the rally long
(10:27 AM) tomthetrader: some of the best rallies are off these initial runs
(10:28 AM) tomthetrader: 8888 on DJIA is a BUY
(10:28 AM) tomthetrader: sell rallies until then
redliontrader: NYSE ADD: -810
(10:33 AM) tomthetrader: sell short agin here
(10:33 AM) tomthetrader: DXD 25 % short fill
(10:33 AM) tomthetrader: we will go 25 % short via DXD
(10:34 AM) tomthetrader: 10:33 am
(10:34 AM) tomthetrader: 41.05
(10:34 AM) tomthetrader: DXD 25% into Traders
(10:35 AM) hibuck2: bgz
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(10:35 AM) rjllanas: bgz
(10:35 AM) tomthetrader: BGZ 28.62
redliontrader: NYSE A/D: -849
(10:37 AM) tomthetrader: 25% added BGZ to get 50% short
(10:38 AM) hibuck2: none of my indicators r working
(10:38 AM) tomthetrader: DXD 41.05 BGZ 28.62
(10:38 AM) tomthetrader: 50% short traders
(10:42 AM) tomthetrader: OEX put call right ?
(10:42 AM) tomthetrader: anyone track OEX P/C ?
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(10:53 AM) hibuck2: $PCRCO .74
(10:55 AM) tomthetrader: 28.25 Stops ..No stops in DXD yet
(10:55 AM) tomthetrader: BGZ 28.25 stops
(10:56 AM) tomthetrader: DXD no stops
(10:57 AM) tomthetrader: Bloom : did you enter C at 2.50 ish ?
(10:59 AM) tomthetrader: UNH perfect
redliontrader: new highs: 41
(10:59 AM) tomthetrader: set up
(11:00 AM) tomthetrader: 977 SPX cash
(11:00 AM) eman11: NYSE AD -616
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redliontrader: New high pace is showing 63 for a potential close
(11:03 AM) tomthetrader: Thank you
(11:03 AM) tomthetrader: and I think we have seen HOD til 3:45 pm ?
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(11:06 AM) eman11: If this traditionally the high point of the day, then the New highs totally probaly won't rise above this level
(11:09 AM) tomthetrader: maybe since we are talking about it and people notice today will be the trend day down
(11:09 AM) ajayvee: basically, we should be out by 3:30?
(11:09 AM) hibuck2: y
(11:09 AM) ajayvee: audio ok
(11:09 AM) bitterwind4: y
(11:09 AM) eman11: ok
(11:09 AM) tomthetrader: stops in B.E.
(11:10 AM) tomthetrader: BGZ 28.70 stop
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(11:11 AM) sobmore: wuz up ppl
(11:11 AM) tomthetrader: 41.25 for DXD
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(11:12 AM) thomas_Poland: nahmin
(11:12 AM) thomas_Poland: you know what nahmin is ?
(11:12 AM) tomthetrader: Yak
(11:12 AM) PremR: re: HFT. i saw the report where Goldman claimed that the code that was stolen bya former employee could be used to manipulate markets. I was so scared to read that I wrote to my senators asking them why they allow HFT.
(11:12 AM) PremR: I mean if anyone is going to manipulate markets it is Goldman and if they have a code to do it why wouldn't they manipulate. Instead they (Goldman) was saying the wrong hands it could be dangereous...in my opinion in Goldman's hand it is already dangerours.
(11:12 AM) thomas_Poland: na'h min
(11:13 AM) thomas_Poland: or you know what I mean?
(11:13 AM) thomas_Poland:
(11:13 AM) thomas_Poland: gangsta language
(11:13 AM) tomthetrader: PremR agree 100% and GS traders are ruthlessly good ..we envy them but despise them !
(11:14 AM) tomthetrader: SELL BOTH DXD BGZ
(11:14 AM) tomthetrader: 100% cash
(11:15 AM) tomthetrader: 41.35 DXD
(11:15 AM) PremR: shocking part about the article was that the Goldman lawyers and the prosecutors were saying in the wrong hands it cold be used to manipulate markets. When in the world would a Wall Street firm not manipulate if they knew they could get away with it. I am surprised that the media did not pick up on that.
(11:15 AM) tomthetrader: 28.82 BGZ
redliontrader: nyse -1010
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(11:18 AM) tomthetrader: VERY GOOD JOB TRADING YOU ALL
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(11:18 AM) thomas_Poland: does anyone believve now we can go higher?
(11:18 AM) thomas_Poland: I think that means up
(11:19 AM) tomthetrader: I think we go down to 944-960
(11:19 AM) tomthetrader: we will just do it like this
(11:19 AM) thomas_Poland: agree .. I was saying about int term
(11:20 AM) tomthetrader: Tough playing short and long term as you will get killed
(11:20 AM) thomas_Poland: but Atilla found some xtrenlines
(11:20 AM) thomas_Poland: so we are screwed
(11:21 AM) thomas_Poland: his proctologist is very good .. finding all these stuff
(11:21 AM) thomas_Poland: he he
(11:21 AM) tomthetrader:
(11:22 AM) thomas_Poland:
(11:23 AM) ajayvee: Y'day HOD SPX 982.49
(11:24 AM) ajayvee: today 982.35
(11:24 AM) eman11: I'm interested in TF futures
(11:24 AM) eman11: 546.10 - 546.20
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(11:26 AM) tomthetrader: if you hAVE 0 SHORTS ... wait or buy a 2 day TF short
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redliontrader: new highs: 46
(11:31 AM) tomthetrader: 970 SPX support s.t.
redliontrader: nyse add - 1098
(11:34 AM) Pete45: Tom...I am planning on getting in at 31.50 for ERX which will be a 9 days 50% retracement if I'm not mistaken –Do you think it a good entry?
(11:34 AM) ajayvee: Q's new LOD
(11:35 AM) Pete45: yes, I missed GLD yesterday
(11:36 AM) Pete45: thans
(11:36 AM) Pete45: k
(11:36 AM) tomthetrader: I nailed it but was in futures and picked the wrong ETF ...DGZ
(11:36 AM) ajayvee: DZZ much more liquid than DGZ
(11:37 AM) tomthetrader: Yes..had about same vol yesterday
(11:37 AM) tomthetrader: DZZ heavy vol today
(11:38 AM) tomthetrader: 8888 Dow still our target by tomorrow
(11:39 AM) tomthetrader: 39.56 BGU we will buy 10% Long BGU
(11:39 AM) tomthetrader: Taking 10% long BGU in Traders stop 39.40
(11:40 AM) tomthetrader: small position for Lunch trade
(11:44 AM) tomthetrader: stop BGU Break Even
(11:44 AM) tomthetrader: 39.56
(11:44 AM) tomthetrader: stop
(11:49 AM) tomthetrader: 39.80 stop
(11:49 AM) tomthetrader: BGU
(11:50 AM) tomthetrader: BGU stopped
(11:50 AM) tomthetrader: 11:40 am
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(11:52 AM) tomthetrader: 39.56 - 39.80 Buy and Sell on BGU
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(12:00 PM) azags: as usual I was thrown off Paltalk for not paying my mortgage to them. Anything happen in the last 25 minutes
redliontrader: took a bgu trades zags 39.56 - 39.80 Buy and Sell on BGU
redliontrader: nyse -1239
redliontrader: new highs = 50
(12:08 PM) azags: look at cal. it is at 10.81. I don't have it
(12:08 PM) tomthetrader: GS AAPL follow the market leaders and the DOLLAR
redliontrader: New High predictor now at 67 for a close..
(12:08 PM) tomthetrader: CAL my favorite
(12:08 PM) tomthetrader: ....so it is trying to get there
redliontrader: it will be close
(12:09 PM) tomthetrader: Yes
(12:09 PM) tomthetrader: I will be back just after Hedge fund hour
(12:09 PM) tomthetrader: TTT Out for lunch Great Job You all
(12:11 PM) azags: we think alike because while I was knocked off Paltalk I had a limit order to buy qld at 43.7 which was executed
(12:13 PM) bitterwind4: anyone have the range of the QQQTN for today....hi/low
(12:14 PM) bitterwind4: is 1.50/1.51 now
(12:18 PM) ajayvee: Hi 1.59 Lo 1.31
redliontrader: QQQ TN h 1.59 L 1.31 C 1.50
(12:20 PM) bitterwind4: tks red
(12:28 PM) ajayvee: Naz A/D -703 Vol -2:1
(12:28 PM) ajayvee: NYSE A/D -1100 Vol -1.3:1
(12:28 PM) ajayvee: RUT A/D -824 Vol -2:1
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(12:59 PM) ajayvee: from CNBC: The only successful bottom-picker is a proctologist
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(1:03 PM) ajayvee: treasury auction not so good?
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(1:06 PM) hibuck2: lost internet did i miss anything
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redliontrader: n
redliontrader: New highs at 55 still in line with a 67 close
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(1:08 PM) hibuck2: thxs no plays?
redliontrader: QQQQ's leading this counter trend rally right now..
(1:11 PM) azags: I completed my round trip this time with qld. I bought at 35.7 and just sold too early at 35.9
(1:11 PM) PremR: what are the NYSE highs up to now?
redliontrader: i looks ike you left at 12:56 and came back 10 minutes later
redliontrader: (12:59 PM) ajayvee: from CNBC: The only successful bottom-picker is a proctologist
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(1:03 PM) ajayvee: treasury auction not so good?
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(1:11 PM) azags: 61 new highs
(1:12 PM) azags: also 61 new highs on the nas
redliontrader: I have 56 for NYSE
(1:13 PM) azags: sorry I bought and sold qld at 43.7 and sold at 43.9
(1:13 PM) eman11: I have 61 also feom WSJ.com
redliontrader: wsj never match Tradestation.. don't know why.., but my research is based on tradestation #s
(1:17 PM) hibuck2: QQQ TN 40. puts back @ 1.41-1.42
(1:20 PM) tomthetrader: yes
(1:20 PM) tomthetrader: everyone ok
(1:20 PM) tomthetrader: good work here
(1:22 PM) ajayvee: gee, should we buy some QQQTN here?
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(1:22 PM) tomthetrader: very good plays
(1:22 PM) Fulkdaddy: up or down close Tom?
(1:22 PM) tomthetrader: IWM outs
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(1:23 PM) tomthetrader: DOWN DOWN ...if I say that we will finish up again ?
(1:23 PM) tomthetrader: I still think it is a Trend day change of character end of rally
(1:23 PM) tomthetrader: Resistance as I said was 977 SPX support 960
(1:23 PM) tomthetrader: and it is working
(1:25 PM) hibuck2: in QQQ TN @ 1.39
(1:26 PM) PremR: bonds getting smoked...i think on 2yr auction results.
(1:27 PM) tomthetrader: 25% short in BGZ
(1:30 PM) tomthetrader: OEX put call ratios peaking at all time highs ?
(1:31 PM) ajayvee: entry on BGZ?
(1:31 PM) tomthetrader: 28.60
(1:31 PM) tomthetrader: stop 28.44
(1:32 PM) tomthetrader: sorry
(1:32 PM) tomthetrader: I did not post....trying to get my futures account up here for TF futures too
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(1:34 PM) tomthetrader: Red : New highs 70+ ?
redliontrader: currently 57
redliontrader: 63 prediction
(1:36 PM) tomthetrader: stop BGZ at 28.50 now
(1:37 PM) tomthetrader: Have a nice ETF guide I am send ing out to you from a member
(1:38 PM) tomthetrader: Thank you BERT !
(1:41 PM) eman11: Tom are you looking at TF here
(1:41 PM) tomthetrader: stop BGZ at Break even guys 28.60
(1:41 PM) tomthetrader: YES E...but want to see the 1:56pm 1st few block trades
(1:43 PM) tomthetrader: 28.65 stop BGZ
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(1:44 PM) tomthetrader: 28.72 now
(1:44 PM) tomthetrader: so just as close as you can
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(1:47 PM) tomthetrader: MOVE our stops to 28.68 OK
(1:47 PM) tomthetrader: 28.68 stops on BGZ
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(1:48 PM) tomthetrader: stopped pout 28.68
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(1:50 PM) rjllanas: got some share of dyy 6.90
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(1:52 PM) tomthetrader: Great
(1:52 PM) tomthetrader: I am looking at the dollar to reenter DAG DYY DBA MOO
(1:53 PM) azags: when will you fall in love with gold? You have always hated it
(1:54 PM) tomthetrader: Yes..I think SEPT
(1:55 PM) tomthetrader: I really think it will hit 800 + this next few weeks into PPI Aug
(1:55 PM) tomthetrader: as rates rise and they squeeze long gold holders
(1:55 PM) tomthetrader: Rally
(1:56 PM) tomthetrader: target BGZ 28.25
(1:56 PM) azags: I brilliantly had 10000 qld at 43.7 and sold it at 43.9. Now it is 44.46
(1:57 PM) tomthetrader: dang
(1:57 PM) tomthetrader: but it is a really tough market here ...just a crosswalk for GS
(1:58 PM) azags: I have a lot of ddm and qld that are hedged with covered calls
(1:58 PM) tomthetrader: HFT ?
(1:58 PM) hibuck2: i hv never seen anything like it
(1:58 PM) azags: Maybe they are using the Thomas Seiko watch permutations
(1:59 PM) tomthetrader: Me neither all 35 years ...I saw this in "program " trading in the 80" led to 87 crash
(1:59 PM) berniectx: me thinks over the last couple weeks pure manipulation by the HFT people
redliontrader: New highs now 59 @ 2pm.. predictor now 69
(2:00 PM) tomthetrader: I agree....
(2:00 PM) rjllanas:
(2:00 PM) tomthetrader: Good work RED
(2:00 PM) tomthetrader: Thank you
(2:01 PM) tomthetrader: BGZ is the main on my screen with TF futures on the 2nd screen and top 50 longs on the 3rd
(2:04 PM) tomthetrader: US $ ?
(2:06 PM) hibuck2: i hv naz high yesterday @ 1971.38 and today @1971.56
(2:07 PM) hibuck2: dji @ yesterday 9123.54 today 9124.91
(2:07 PM) hibuck2: we need lower highs and lower lows
(2:10 PM) bitterwind4: csco thru yest hod test
(2:10 PM) tomthetrader: 28.25 BUY limit order 2000 shares on BGS
(2:10 PM) tomthetrader: BGZ
redliontrader: today @ 11:36 we had a low tick of the day of -1037, that was the lowest tick since 7/21 at noon wich was -1172 and started a rally. Before 7/21 you have to go back to 7/10 to find a tick lower that -1037.. That is a very strong market
(2:11 PM) tomthetrader: yes sir
(2:11 PM) tomthetrader: it is really the strongest I have EVER witnessed
(2:11 PM) tomthetrader: only 81 and 83 were close
(2:14 PM) tomthetrader: scrap limit buy on BGZ
(2:14 PM) tomthetrader: Thanks
(2:15 PM) bitterwind4: semis still strong, but below hod still
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(2:15 PM) bitterwind4: following the SPs
(2:16 PM) rjllanas: watching ya trade got a better feel and understanding today
(2:16 PM) hibuck2: i show the naz broke the high new high 1973.35
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(2:16 PM) berniectx: how would you like to be working on Wall Street and have Barney in charge of your comp package...he is the right guy for that??
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(2:17 PM) bitterwind4: amazes me Barney is so powerful.
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(2:20 PM) bitterwind4: RUT still below yest hod
(2:21 PM) bitterwind4: QQQTN 1.23/1.24 now
(2:23 PM) tomthetrader: RUT TF reDY TO FIRE SHORT ?
(2:23 PM) tomthetrader: Naz flying now
(2:23 PM) tomthetrader: BULL
(2:23 PM) tomthetrader: can it carry the whole market up
(2:24 PM) tomthetrader: TWM 35.55 let's look to buy again
(2:25 PM) Harrod_t: 35 or 36.55
(2:25 PM) eman11: Yes what %
(2:25 PM) azags: aye aye
(2:25 PM) tomthetrader: 25% into TWM at
(2:25 PM) tomthetrader: 35.55
(2:26 PM) eman11: TF?
(2:26 PM) eman11: Just 1
(2:26 PM) tomthetrader: TF 1 contract short
(2:26 PM) tomthetrader: now
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(2:27 PM) eman11: 548.9
(2:27 PM) tomthetrader: 548.90 also E
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(2:28 PM) tomthetrader: 1 TF contract short in Traders stop 552.00
(2:29 PM) eman11: no
(2:29 PM) sttteve: n
(2:29 PM) ajayvee: not me
(2:29 PM) azags: no
(2:29 PM) hibuck2: no
(2:29 PM) bitterwind4: n
(2:29 PM) berniectx: n
(2:30 PM) tomthetrader: not me
redliontrader: Can I get a symbol name for TF... TFU09?
(2:30 PM) sttteve: no it is there
(2:30 PM) sttteve: now
(2:30 PM) tomthetrader: yes
(2:30 PM) bitterwind4: jis 35.50 now
(2:30 PM) tomthetrader: TFU9
(2:30 PM) eman11: filled
(2:31 PM) tomthetrader: filled
(2:31 PM) bitterwind4: TWM is .48...falling
(2:32 PM) ajayvee: "but it's different now"
(2:32 PM) tomthetrader: LOOK at those YM bleeps
(2:32 PM) tomthetrader: Unfreaking believabl;e
(2:33 PM) tomthetrader: let's do the double down on TWM with another 25 % AT 35.35
(2:33 PM) tomthetrader: STOP 34.99
(2:34 PM) tomthetrader: 50% + SHORT VIA twm LAST FILL 33.35
(2:34 PM) bitterwind4: took TZA 16.95
(2:34 PM) tomthetrader: ok
redliontrader: highs 68.. looks like no problem getting to the 70 number
redliontrader: 69
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(2:38 PM) hibuck2: cramer UNH
(2:39 PM) tomthetrader: yES...i DO HAVE SOME IN MY KIDS ACCOUNTS BUT NOT HERE
(2:39 PM) hibuck2: i think he is star eyed for erin
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(2:42 PM) bitterwind4: stop tza is yest lod
(2:43 PM) tomthetrader: stop 35.45 at break even here
(2:43 PM) tomthetrader: TWM stop at 35.45 Break even all out in cash
(2:44 PM) hibuck2: y
redliontrader: agghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
(2:44 PM) bitterwind4: good
(2:45 PM) azags: perfect audio
redliontrader: new highs 70
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(2:46 PM) hibuck2: 4550.70
(2:46 PM) hibuck2: 550.70
(2:46 PM) eman11: Still in TF?
(2:46 PM) tomthetrader: I figured we would nail it...the stocks individually are strong...they could care less about indices
redliontrader: I can not track the TF trade.. Let me know when you are out and what price..
(2:47 PM) tomthetrader: TF 1 contract short still in
(2:47 PM) tomthetrader: OK Red
(2:47 PM) tomthetrader: E will give you the exit
(2:47 PM) bitterwind4: stop .97 on TZA
(2:47 PM) eman11: break even is 548.90
(2:48 PM) tomthetrader: GILD UA all my stocks !
(2:49 PM) eman11: Yes
(2:49 PM) tomthetrader: Thank you
(2:50 PM) hibuck2: somthing gotta give
(2:50 PM) tomthetrader: Yes
(2:50 PM) tomthetrader: still am sticking by 977 high 960 buy
(2:51 PM) hibuck2: i am with ya
(2:51 PM) hibuck2: goverment
(2:51 PM) bitterwind4: Tom...tks for entry level TZA...owrking
(2:52 PM) tomthetrader: good
(2:52 PM) bitterwind4: work
(2:52 PM) hibuck2: TWM
redliontrader: another trend reversal on the thrust, ticks, ad - heading down
(2:52 PM) tomthetrader: need a BIG win
(2:52 PM) tomthetrader: yes
(2:54 PM) berniectx: I like him no BS
redliontrader: original reality tv
(2:54 PM) tomthetrader: Rick Santelli on Fast money host 2 days
(2:54 PM) hibuck2: why does a bigger trader like him turn to TV
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(2:55 PM) hibuck2: mvg up stop on TWM
(2:56 PM) azags: I made billions. I just sold 5000 shares, a portion of my position intwm at 35.75
(2:57 PM) eman11: OK
(2:57 PM) azags: We need to buy an nfl team
(2:57 PM) eman11: 120
(2:57 PM) tomthetrader: $180
(2:57 PM) tomthetrader: OK
(2:58 PM) tomthetrader: Let's take $150
(2:58 PM) bitterwind4: will sell TZA if .15
(2:58 PM) tomthetrader: OK ?
(2:58 PM) eman11: OK
(2:58 PM) hibuck2: zags how about we give you the browns
(2:58 PM) tomthetrader: Thanks Bitter and E
(2:58 PM) tomthetrader: ZAGS will afford the Bengals ?
(2:59 PM) azags: Is that a semi pro team?
(2:59 PM) ajayvee: Bengals will get Mike Vick pretty cheap
(2:59 PM) tomthetrader: KASS reentering shorts
(3:00 PM) tomthetrader: Mike Vick needs to play for a mascot with a Dog ?
(3:00 PM) tomthetrader: At the dog pound ?
(3:00 PM) ajayvee: but he'll have to walk the owner's dogs every morning
redliontrader: new highs 70
(3:00 PM) tomthetrader: Yep
(3:01 PM) hibuck2: ha that right'
(3:01 PM) tomthetrader: individual stocks in a great pattern...all my stock scans are showing non stop buying ...technically
(3:01 PM) eman11: Filled TF at 547.40 +150
(3:01 PM) eman11: True and Yes
(3:02 PM) tomthetrader: RED out with $150
(3:02 PM) tomthetrader: TFU9
(3:02 PM) tomthetrader: 100% cash
redliontrader: yes
redliontrader: new highs 72
(3:04 PM) ajayvee: yes
(3:04 PM) hibuck2: after watching that videos on paul Tudor Jones from Poland i think i can do anything
(3:04 PM) eman11: I'm up for it
(3:04 PM) tomthetrader: everyone sick of pinball investing ?
(3:04 PM) bitterwind4: y
(3:05 PM) tomthetrader: OK
(3:05 PM) bitterwind4: took .19 tza'
(3:07 PM) hibuck2: why wouldnt GS want the market to sell off so everybody can re enter including them
(3:08 PM) bitterwind4: good question
(3:08 PM) tomthetrader: Gov't wants up up up
(3:08 PM) hibuck2: is it because there feelings would be hurt from calling 1060. s&p and it didnt get there
(3:08 PM) tomthetrader: looking at TYP for last trade OK
(3:08 PM) eman11: The Gov't wants GS to keep the market up
(3:08 PM) tomthetrader: 16.20
(3:09 PM) tomthetrader: stop 15.99
(3:09 PM) tomthetrader: 25% into TYP at 16.20 stop 15.99
(3:10 PM) bitterwind4: no .20 here
(3:10 PM) hibuck2: no
(3:10 PM) sttteve: n
(3:10 PM) ajayvee: nope
(3:10 PM) eman11: no
(3:12 PM) tomthetrader: you may get it a few cents higher ?
(3:13 PM) tomthetrader: 15:09:03 filled
(3:13 PM) eman11: filled at 16.24
(3:14 PM) tomthetrader: OK
(3:14 PM) tomthetrader: 21-23 now
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(3:15 PM) tomthetrader: 16.20 again
(3:15 PM) ajayvee: filled TYP 16.20
(3:15 PM) rjllanas: bac reached
(3:15 PM) tomthetrader: 13.41 ?
redliontrader: New highs 74
(3:16 PM) hibuck2: $PCRCO .79
(3:16 PM) tomthetrader: market gearing up for a run Red ?
(3:16 PM) thomas_Poland: any classical chart reader can see Head and shoulders on 30 min Es chart ?
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(3:16 PM) thomas_Poland: yes
(3:16 PM) thomas_Poland: and volume pattern is ok
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(3:16 PM) thomas_Poland: perfect for the pattern
(3:17 PM) thomas_Poland: if we break it we should get 950 easly
(3:17 PM) tomthetrader: TYP Inverted H and Sh
(3:17 PM) thomas_Poland: Kilroy
(3:17 PM) tomthetrader: was here
(3:18 PM) thomas_Poland: LOL
(3:18 PM) thomas_Poland: LOL
(3:18 PM) tomthetrader: Tim Knight
(3:18 PM) longerorshorter: tom
(3:18 PM) thomas_Poland: I am on the floor
(3:19 PM) thomas_Poland:
(3:19 PM) berniectx: Tom you are making me laugh just like TP!!
(3:19 PM) azags: Is Tom and Tim one and the same person?
(3:19 PM) thomas_Poland: don't tell us what you can do
(3:19 PM) hibuck2: TYP 7900 shrs @ 16.24
(3:19 PM) berniectx: I don't laugh with the singing though
(3:19 PM) rjllanas: i leaved off duval st by the governor mansion in tallahassee
(3:19 PM) longerorshorter: those voice lessons really paid off tom
(3:19 PM) longerorshorter:
(3:19 PM) tomthetrader: Thank you
(3:19 PM) thomas_Poland: my wife just came in
(3:19 PM) tomthetrader: it is time for a solo ?
(3:20 PM) thomas_Poland: and you singing to me
(3:20 PM) thomas_Poland: nice
(3:20 PM) rjllanas: went to leon high school
(3:20 PM) thomas_Poland: now I am officially gay
(3:20 PM) thomas_Poland:
(3:20 PM) thomas_Poland: no
(3:20 PM) PremR: not that there is anything wrong with that.
(3:20 PM) thomas_Poland: it was our secret
(3:20 PM) tomthetrader: OOOPs
(3:20 PM) thomas_Poland: of course
(3:20 PM) thomas_Poland: nothing wrong
(3:21 PM) thomas_Poland:
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(3:21 PM) tomthetrader: stop TYP at Break even now
(3:21 PM) PremR: full metal jacket: Only 2 things come out of Florida. Steers and Queers and I don't see any horns on you.
(3:22 PM) ajayvee:
(3:22 PM) tomthetrader: TYP 16.20 25% short into traders stop 16.20
(3:22 PM) hibuck2: what was that u said the other day bull markets buy the close and bear markets sell the close?
(3:23 PM) eman11: That's fine thanks
(3:25 PM) tomthetrader: 8888 Dow still our target
(3:25 PM) tomthetrader: 16.75 target on TYP
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(3:27 PM) tomthetrader: Gdansk !
(3:27 PM) thomas_Poland: Florida!
(3:27 PM) tomthetrader: Zlotskies
(3:27 PM) thomas_Poland: Dollars
(3:27 PM) tomthetrader: you are getting a green card to visit ...?
(3:27 PM) hibuck2: doesnt feel like it wants to go down
(3:27 PM) thomas_Poland: hope so
(3:28 PM) thomas_Poland: if I visit you how will we tell Prisha ?
(3:28 PM) thomas_Poland:
(3:28 PM) tomthetrader: we were dating in the 60's so ...you know the 60's !
(3:29 PM) tomthetrader: we will sleep head to toe ...like a OREO ?
(3:29 PM) bitterwind4: I hate this kind action...tough
redliontrader: First time since May 08 that we have 7 days in a row of 50 or more new highs in a day.. before may was in October 07.. both of those streaks were 12 and 13 respectively
(3:29 PM) tomthetrader: Thomas ...let's stop ...we may get arrested ?
(3:29 PM) thomas_Poland: ok
(3:29 PM) tomthetrader: AMAZING
(3:29 PM) tomthetrader: STRENGTH
(3:30 PM) tomthetrader: The biggest bears give us the biggest bulls
(3:30 PM) tomthetrader: SPXU and UPRO put on your watchlist
(3:32 PM) berniectx: am watching block trades on SPY ramp agina today??
(3:32 PM) hibuck2: did Obama and Gietner tell GS if they dont keep the market up they would loose there job
(3:32 PM) tomthetrader: stopped on TYP
(3:33 PM) tomthetrader: Break even out of TYP
(3:34 PM) tomthetrader: singing
(3:34 PM) tomthetrader: now ?
(3:34 PM) bitterwind4: very good clear entries this morning on trades...tks
(3:34 PM) tomthetrader: Than k you
(3:35 PM) hibuck2: stop out of TWM
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(3:37 PM) eman11: Nice Trading Today, I like the pinball method
(3:37 PM) tomthetrader: Thanks E ..Thank you ...you are very easy to work with
(3:37 PM) eman11: Easy-E
(3:38 PM) hibuck2: $PCRCO .80
(3:38 PM) tomthetrader:
(3:38 PM) hibuck2: $SPX 977.01
(3:38 PM) hibuck2: $RUT 550.03
(3:39 PM) bitterwind4: mkt does feel a little tired though
(3:40 PM) tomthetrader: Yes
(3:41 PM) tomthetrader: it is EXHAUSTED but individual stocks doing the job
redliontrader: our new highs are going to close at or above 77 which will put the 5dma to 81 or higher. It will now take a new high tomorrow of lower than 56 to pivot the ma.
(3:42 PM) tomthetrader: Amazing data ..never before ?
(3:42 PM) tomthetrader: so much strength
(3:42 PM) tomthetrader: in all areas'
(3:42 PM) tomthetrader: AAPL racing to close green
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(3:42 PM) tomthetrader: RGA new highs
(3:43 PM) tomthetrader: of runs
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(3:43 PM) tomthetrader: all our stocks from yesterday up?
(3:43 PM) tomthetrader: while indices down /
(3:43 PM) azags: I am out of all my shorts sold my last twm at 35.65
(3:43 PM) berniectx: here they are
(3:44 PM) azags: look at twm collapse
(3:44 PM) tomthetrader: 40.45 -40.70 in 30 seconds
(3:45 PM) tomthetrader: 9025.51 on close
(3:45 PM) tomthetrader: see if they reverse it here
(3:45 PM) azags: that is not allowed in this new world order
(3:46 PM) ajayvee: Naz A/D +40 Vol +1.5:1
(3:46 PM) ajayvee: NYSE A/D -252 Vol +1.1:1
(3:47 PM) ajayvee: RUT A/D +20 Vol +1:1
(3:47 PM) azags: yesterday and today were the huge downdrafts
(3:48 PM) ajayvee: $TRANnies down 1.3%
(3:48 PM) tomthetrader: 40.85 DXD Paper trade
(3:49 PM) Fulkdaddy: Why would they not run the market up to 1000 and get everyone giddy?
(3:49 PM) tomthetrader: DXD Paper trade 40.85
(3:49 PM) Fulkdaddy: It makes no sense not too...then they can trap more longs for a big 5-6% selloff
(3:49 PM) ajayvee: I don't have enough paper to trade
(3:50 PM) azags: I made money today on the short side as long as I held the position for minutes only
(3:50 PM) tomthetrader: yes
(3:50 PM) hibuck2: we need a monkey to work for us
(3:51 PM) azags: yes I left a lot on qld on the table by getting out to fast
(3:52 PM) hibuck2: bac 13.39
(3:53 PM) bitterwind4: tom is there an overnighter in QQQTN 1.20/1.21
(3:53 PM) bitterwind4: tempter think high today was .57
(3:53 PM) bitterwind4: think
(3:54 PM) tomthetrader: 13.41 bac short area
(3:55 PM) tomthetrader: There goes our DXD
(3:55 PM) tomthetrader: High on BAC 13.43 LOL
(3:55 PM) azags: my feeling is this is a freight train speeding along. I had many short positions today to offset my longs and the shorts made money today when I sold them a ran for cover
(3:55 PM) tomthetrader: will tank to 11 handle now ?
(3:56 PM) tomthetrader: Volume spike BUY on BAC
(3:56 PM) Pete45: ERX 33.37
(3:56 PM) tomthetrader: you doing well Pete ?
(3:56 PM) Pete45: yes thanks
(3:57 PM) tomthetrader: great
(3:57 PM) tomthetrader: 13.41 standing Short sale for BAC
(3:57 PM) tomthetrader: Kass heavily short again after covering
(3:58 PM) tomthetrader: Another Lost opp for bears
(3:59 PM) tomthetrader: 977 SPX res 960 support
(4:00 PM) tomthetrader: 961 many looking to buy
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(4:01 PM) bitterwind4: es sure is consolidating at highs 15 min cht
(4:01 PM) bitterwind4: 4days
(4:01 PM) hibuck2: MSFT and YHOO deal to be anounced any time
(4:01 PM) bitterwind4: but slight lower highs
(4:02 PM) tomthetrader: 1603 NQ
(4:03 PM) ajayvee: 81 new highs
redliontrader: New Highs 81, tomorrows pivot requirement 55
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(4:04 PM) tomthetrader: great work Red ...Thank you ...Zweig is beating Roubini ?
redliontrader: 100% Cash Traders, Main & IRA
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(4:05 PM) tomthetrader: Great working with you all guys and Gals
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redliontrader: Closed 12 Trades today for a profit of $4471
(4:05 PM) tomthetrader: Sorry Thomas got Pervy on us today but it is the only way I can get him to stay !
(4:06 PM) tomthetrader: Thanks RED for you hard work
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(4:06 PM) tomthetrader: very professional ...proud to have a partner with such passion for the markets
redliontrader: 11 winners, 1 looser and 1 breakeven.. i know that adds to 13 because we did 14 trades today
(4:07 PM) tomthetrader: Proud to have you all here with us as we witness history
(4:07 PM) eman11: Thanks Tom and Red
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(4:07 PM) tomthetrader: 2 good days at 98%
redliontrader: the 1 looser and 1 winner was the BGZ trade so combined together 10 winners and 2 breakevens
redliontrader: no loosers
(4:07 PM) tomthetrader: Great and good 2 day totals too ..so good week considering
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