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redliontrader: gm
(7:33 AM) netherbow1: good morning - turn around Tues has arrived
(7:36 AM) netherbow1: FM said the BAC conversion was completed yesterday
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(7:57 AM) ajayvee: g'morning TTT'ers
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redliontrader: gm
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(8:17 AM) stevefl_64: gm red
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(8:45 AM) tomthetrader: Good Morning ....FXI and TDF are areas to get into today IRA and Main Fund
(8:45 AM) tomthetrader: don't let me forget !
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(8:52 AM) netherbow1: TOM do you have any plan to add to POT , if so where ?
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(8:58 AM) tomthetrader: Right here I am buying POT LEAPS and Calls
(8:58 AM) tomthetrader: to prot4ct my losses
(8:59 AM) netherbow1: which ones are you buying ?
(8:59 AM) tomthetrader: Jan 2010 is liquid and anything in the money 3-6 months out is a great buy
(9:00 AM) Fulkdaddy: Gartman was on Fast Money last night and sees 1, 2 to 3 more weeks of down
(9:00 AM) tomthetrader: Key with POT ....Buy in the money 3-6 months out and ride it out until 30 days prior to expiry
(9:00 AM) netherbow1: thxs
(9:00 AM) Fulkdaddy: Art Cashin on this morning thinks the market may have to pull back 15% to get the dip buyers squeezed out
(9:00 AM) tomthetrader: Gartman could have had his biggest day of losses in history yesterday ?
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(9:01 AM) tomthetrader: Cashin been right on the drop
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(9:02 AM) tomthetrader: we will buy TDF at 9:45 am and we will buy FXI then also for Mainaccount
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(9:03 AM) Fulkdaddy: Gartman said on Fast Money last night he lost 0.7% yesterday
(9:03 AM) Fulkdaddy: He said he was selling AA, FCX, POT all day and buying puts for protection on the SPY when he could not unwind his positions fast enough
(9:04 AM) Fulkdaddy: he said we have broken the trendlines and we have to respect that
(9:04 AM) tomthetrader: he jumped ship ? A pro panicking ?
(9:05 AM) tomthetrader: we will see if he sold at the bottom very soon
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(9:05 AM) tomthetrader: was it panic ...tell us next month ?
(9:05 AM) tomthetrader: Only then will we know
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(9:05 AM) tomthetrader: But yesterday was a good old deleveraging event like Fall
(9:06 AM) tomthetrader: we don't like to see it ..but fear and panic came back which is good
(9:07 AM) azags: I bought late yesterday bgu ah and qld
(9:08 AM) tomthetrader: Yes...you got the best prices of the day Zags ...great job
(9:08 AM) tomthetrader: 1410 NQ held and 888 ES so we should bounce
(9:09 AM) azags: I sold yesterday morning qid and twm early but still at decent profits. I was able to buy 4200 bgu at 31.13
(9:09 AM) tomthetrader: a poke thru on some technical levels ALWAYS happens in a int. term correction to fake the most chartists / technicians out
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(9:11 AM) Fulkdaddy: yes, the fake out is classic Tom!
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(9:11 AM) Fulkdaddy: I have been on the wrong end of that trade more than I would like to admit
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(9:12 AM) azags: If the ndx closes higher then 1445 today I will close out my longs because there may then be another trip down. Otherwise I will stay long
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(9:14 AM) tomthetrader: But it takes rear view mirror lots of times ...and we don't have that luxury ...so we get nervous when levels are close and at !
(9:14 AM) tomthetrader: NQ NDX is still the KEY for the summer til labor day
(9:14 AM) Fulkdaddy: Zags, what makes you like that level?
(9:14 AM) tomthetrader: if we can stay above 1410 we will be OK
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(9:16 AM) tomthetrader: Testing audio
(9:16 AM) Fulkdaddy: gm
(9:16 AM) energy2x: y
(9:16 AM) ajayvee: y
(9:16 AM) desertone: GM
(9:16 AM) netherbow1: y
(9:16 AM) hibuck2: gm yup we hear u
(9:17 AM) rekon8: gm
(9:17 AM) richardt_5: GM..
(9:17 AM) azags: I think a ndx move of 20 points today will ease the fear and people may then want to jump back in the water and may get hit again. I will get out
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(9:25 AM) redTest: % amount?
(9:25 AM) azags: where are you on dug now after the pop?
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(9:26 AM) tomthetrader: dig
(9:28 AM) tomthetrader: 33.25
(9:28 AM) tomthetrader: target
(9:30 AM) Fulkdaddy: ags, I like your contrarian play!
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(9:32 AM) tomthetrader: 22.00 TDF
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(9:33 AM) tomthetrader: you can get filled with limit orders
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(9:34 AM) tomthetrader: FXI35.95
(9:34 AM) tomthetrader: Again a decent fill opp
(9:34 AM) tomthetrader: in here
(9:35 AM) tomthetrader: 31.25 sops in at Break even
(9:35 AM) tomthetrader: stops not sops
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(9:40 AM) tomthetrader: stop BGU at 31.45
(9:40 AM) tomthetrader: 31.45 stopped out of BGU
(9:41 AM) tomthetrader: .20 cent gain
(9:41 AM) tomthetrader: we will reenter at 9:58 in BGZ most likely
redliontrader: OUT BGU @ 31.45
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(9:44 AM) Fulkdaddy: I would like to see 867 today...take out 875...make everyone run for cover, then we go long
(9:44 AM) tomthetrader: Yes
(9:44 AM) tomthetrader: Yes
(9:44 AM) tomthetrader: Yes
(9:45 AM) tomthetrader: Dave that is the best case scenario if it occurs intraday...no close beloe 875 and a close around 880
(9:45 AM) tomthetrader: for Bulls wanting to get back in ...then everyone will be happy
(9:45 AM) stevefl_64: red do you have official prices yet for TDF and FXI?
(9:47 AM) tomthetrader: 22.00 TDF and FXI 35.95 should be close
(9:47 AM) stevefl_64: ty Tom
(9:47 AM) tomthetrader: YW
redliontrader: Added 10% FXI to Main @ 36.05
redliontrader: Added 10% TDF to Main @ 22.16
(9:50 AM) dhmohan1963: templelton dragon fund
(9:50 AM) tomthetrader: Yes
(9:51 AM) azags: I bought fxi at 36 and more at 35.85
(9:51 AM) tomthetrader: That was a high fill
(9:51 AM) tomthetrader: on both
redliontrader: Yes, that was the VMA
redliontrader: every1 should have beat that.. the TDF is low volume
(9:53 AM) tomthetrader: let's get 10% BGZ here at 38.25 stop 38.00
(9:54 AM) tomthetrader: stop at 38.00
(9:54 AM) hibuck2: NYSE A/D +1043
(9:54 AM) hibuck2: $PCRCO .97
(9:54 AM) hibuck2: $TNX 36.89 3.68
(9:55 AM) hibuck2: $TRIN .66 $TRIQE 1.03
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(9:57 AM) redTest: Sold some of my FCX I bought y'day.. thank you TOM
(9:57 AM) tomthetrader: Your welcome ...good job Red
(9:58 AM) tomthetrader: FCX was one of those panic trades all hedgies sold at once
(9:58 AM) tomthetrader: stop BGZ at break even now please
(9:59 AM) azags: I sold 4200 bgu at 31.5 bought at 31.13
(9:59 AM) thomas_Poland: someone is buying puts before news???
(9:59 AM) tomthetrader: yes
(9:59 AM) tomthetrader: fear back
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(10:00 AM) tomthetrader: stopped out
(10:00 AM) tomthetrader: and took off ...
(10:00 AM) tomthetrader: did they see us /
(10:00 AM) Fulkdaddy: Tom, does it concern you the dip buying is rather anemic?
(10:01 AM) thomas_Poland: TRIN flat all the time .. can be bullish
(10:01 AM) thomas_Poland: but we can have nice selloff today
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(10:12 AM) Fulkdaddy: 10 year is flying...Aruj???
(10:12 AM) Fulkdaddy: 867 today Tom?
(10:12 AM) Fulkdaddy: that is a pesonal problem
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(10:13 AM) Fulkdaddy: A/D 329
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(10:15 AM) hibuck2: $PCRCO 1.02
(10:15 AM) arujunaa: even in the face of massive supply this week, bonds trading very well. fomc tomorrow will be huge. i'm a buyer of weakness rather than a seller of strength
(10:15 AM) ajayvee: BGZ nice play, too bad stopped out
(10:15 AM) tomthetrader: yes..one penny 2nd time in 5 sessions
(10:16 AM) Fulkdaddy: Aurj, do you ever hold or short bonds for swing trades? Weeks or months? Or just day trades?
(10:16 AM) thomas_Poland: a/d line is dying again
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(10:17 AM) tomthetrader: FDX GS rumors PCS replacing TEL
(10:18 AM) tomthetrader: trouble but buying opp late today or short now
(10:18 AM) tomthetrader: MRVL cut at DB
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(10:22 AM) tomthetrader: 889.30 ES
(10:22 AM) arujunaa: if we're trending i will trade on a longer timeframe. but not for months. i would say 2-3 weeks at the outside
(10:22 AM) thomas_Poland: is Obama speaking today?
(10:23 AM) netherbow1: yes - arnd noon I think
(10:23 AM) thomas_Poland: 12:30 i GUESS
(10:23 AM) thomas_Poland: I guess
(10:23 AM) netherbow1: from the Rose Gargen - a press Conf
(10:23 AM) thomas_Poland: forexfactory shows 12:30
(10:23 AM) hibuck2: Tom off topic but I see Tallahassee ur getting a Turtle tunnel for turtles to go under the road insted of over the road,question will they know to use it? 4.3 million in the stimulus package just though it was interesting ,they r doing a special on CNN tonight
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(10:24 AM) tomthetrader: Yes ...we need a few million for the turtles to make it under the highway ...they have been doin fine for 20 million years ?
(10:25 AM) tomthetrader: Obama will pump + the US economy
(10:25 AM) hibuck2: did u see the news?
(10:28 AM) netherbow1: what news do you mean HIBUCK?
(10:28 AM) hibuck2: the news on the Turtle tunnel !!
(10:28 AM) tomthetrader: yes ...all over down here
(10:29 AM) tomthetrader: FXI and TDF in the Main Fund at average prices from 9:40-9:45am
(10:29 AM) netherbow1: thxs - they must be the Ninja Turtles ?
(10:29 AM) thomas_Poland: do you have Ninja Turtles?
(10:29 AM) thomas_Poland: LOL
(10:29 AM) thomas_Poland: I just wrote the same thing
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(10:29 AM) thomas_Poland: turtles with hammers
(10:29 AM) hibuck2: They could be Richard Dennis 's Turtles Traders
(10:29 AM) thomas_Poland: that would be interesting
(10:30 AM) tomthetrader: I don't have any fills during that time frame above 22.06 in TDF
(10:30 AM) tomthetrader: I will con't to scour the e-mail members but I think that will come down some
(10:32 AM) eman11: Bought FXI 36.01
(10:32 AM) tomthetrader: 35.95 - 36.00 on FXI according to the notes I am getting ...
(10:33 AM) hibuck2: NYSE A/D -114
(10:33 AM) hibuck2: $PCRCO 1.03
(10:33 AM) tomthetrader: pretty ugly day for any longs ...market wants to shake out the bulls
(10:34 AM) stevefl_64: I got 35.95 fill FXI and btw filled TDF 22.10 at 9:41:56 if that is really important at Fido but they stink
(10:38 AM) tomthetrader: Options Express doesn't show a tade above 22.06 between 9:40 and 9:45 ?
(10:38 AM) tomthetrader: TRADE
(10:38 AM) thomas_Poland: I am affraid that if we go down till afternoon (very possible) we will go down till Friday
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(10:38 AM) thomas_Poland: if we bounce here that can save bulls IMO
(10:39 AM) tomthetrader: THE IDEA OF THE BEARS TAKING OVER IS NOT VERY PLEASING AFTER 4 MONTHS OF STRAIGHT UP?
(10:41 AM) tomthetrader: FROM E-MAILS IT SEEMS 22.06 WAS AVG PRICE 22.00 -22.08 WAS THE HIGH REPORTED fyi
(10:41 AM) tomthetrader: 72 FILLS ..NONE OVER 22.08
(10:41 AM) Freezinalberta: stops 4%?
(10:42 AM) tomthetrader: Yes
(10:43 AM) tomthetrader: should NOT go below 888 SPX cash
(10:44 AM) eman11: How are your indicators? Would 888 generate a buy signal?
(10:45 AM) tomthetrader: we will get a buy signal
(10:46 AM) eman11: thanks
(10:46 AM) tomthetrader: at 875 and will start buying more positions at 888 Cash
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(10:53 AM) hibuck2: $PCRCO 1.05
(10:54 AM) hibuck2: NYSE A/D -583
(10:54 AM) hibuck2: $TNX 36.40 3.64
(10:55 AM) hibuck2: $TRIN .81 $TRIQE 1.23
(10:55 AM) hibuck2: $SPX 890.57
(10:56 AM) hibuck2: SPX LOD 889.78
(10:58 AM) dhmohan1963: tom you think we add more pot here
(10:59 AM) tomthetrader: Yes
(11:00 AM) tomthetrader: especially Calls
(11:00 AM) tomthetrader: or shares
(11:04 AM) thomas_Poland: people buying more puts
(11:05 AM) jaxbrown22: Tom how about more SSO or at what point?
(11:05 AM) tomthetrader: pretty soon SSC and QLD DDM
(11:05 AM) tomthetrader: SSO
(11:05 AM) tomthetrader: 888 SPX cash stage 1
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(11:12 AM) tomthetrader: IN the IRA we will buy 10% DDM at 27.75
(11:12 AM) dhmohan1963: tom please look at gnw
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(11:14 AM) tomthetrader: genworth financial ?
(11:14 AM) dhmohan1963: yes
(11:14 AM) dhmohan1963: good looking chart
(11:15 AM) tomthetrader: 300% up and consolidating
(11:15 AM) tomthetrader: I would say a hold at best a possible short term SELL if we rollover today
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(11:16 AM) tomthetrader: DDM a larger longer bet on the market
(11:16 AM) nimesh_: what u think about the nasdaq weakness?
(11:17 AM) tomthetrader: stinks
(11:18 AM) tomthetrader: Tech is supposed to hold up but 1410 NDX is a BUY and it will rally hard if hit
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(11:18 AM) nimesh_: well, we are close to it, let's see what happens
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(11:19 AM) dhmohan1963: TYH is buy too or not
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(11:25 AM) tomthetrader: Yes
(11:26 AM) tomthetrader: TYH is a spec long term buy in a Bull market
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(11:33 AM) nimesh_: foc meeting tomorrow muddies things a little
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(11:35 AM) eman11: 888.86
(11:35 AM) ajayvee: 888.86
(11:35 AM) Fulkdaddy: 8888.86
(11:35 AM) Fulkdaddy: TOS
(11:35 AM) ajayvee: Tradstation
(11:36 AM) Freezinalberta: 888.86 BMO
(11:36 AM) tomthetrader: Line in the sand right there should not penetrate those lows
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(11:39 AM) tomthetrader: Traders if you feel bullish you can enter long BGU QLD SSO
(11:41 AM) Fulkdaddy: I don't feell bullish at all...it seems the fundamentals do not support the 40% gain in the stock market
(11:41 AM) tomthetrader: actually from bottom to top we got 100% in ZUPI
(11:42 AM) tomthetrader: and now have a 10% correction in
(11:42 AM) tomthetrader: so high beta has been crazy
(11:42 AM) tomthetrader: 340-550TF
(11:42 AM) berniectx: agree with Dave too many dandelions with the Green Shoots
(11:43 AM) tomthetrader: pretty amazing run and now a 8-10% correction like we said 4 weeks ago is finally here and now
(11:43 AM) Fulkdaddy: Tom, that emphasizes the move went waaayyyy too far...
(11:43 AM) tomthetrader: yes
(11:44 AM) tomthetrader: penny stocks were flowing here and millions of other sites
(11:44 AM) thomas_Poland: have to mute
(11:44 AM) thomas_Poland:
(11:44 AM) tomthetrader: so a test of 666 is in minds of many
(11:44 AM) Freezinalberta: LIKE ATILLA?
(11:44 AM) tomthetrader: I am on at 3:45 pm Thomas so don't break Paltalk
(11:45 AM) tomthetrader: yes...tons of morons like him....some more decent
(11:45 AM) tomthetrader: he has run out of paper trades
(11:46 AM) tomthetrader: and his skills are ok but discipline not in his work
(11:46 AM) Fulkdaddy: Little River band...nice Tommy!
(11:46 AM) tomthetrader: Atilla tends to lie alot too ..even tim knight distanted himself ...the best liar out there !
(11:47 AM) tomthetrader: If you find one lie there is usually a ton more
(11:47 AM) tomthetrader: and Tim knight and Atilla need help
(11:47 AM) tomthetrader: Sol ?
(11:47 AM) tomthetrader: who are those guys /
(11:48 AM) tomthetrader: AAPL in a 10% drop from highs with GS
(11:48 AM) tomthetrader: market leaders acting punk
(11:48 AM) tomthetrader: not good
(11:48 AM) thomas_Poland: I wonder what xtrendline sticks out of atilla's a...
(11:48 AM) tomthetrader: LOL
(11:49 AM) thomas_Poland: this joker tried to say Neely and others are now bearish when he said so long we are doomed
(11:49 AM) tomthetrader: He has achip on his shoulder...should just go to Vegas and drop 3-5 million instead of on a blog /
(11:49 AM) thomas_Poland: and he forgot he has like 10 mil drawdown?
(11:49 AM) thomas_Poland: he should be quiet and now he is posting a lot since he is 'right' from 948
(11:49 AM) tomthetrader: all professionalshave ran away from him in last 4 months
(11:50 AM) thomas_Poland: he made fool of himself last 4 months
(11:50 AM) thomas_Poland: he knows how to analyze market but blew it
(11:50 AM) tomthetrader: yes ...kept calling top at 838 848 858 888 90 918 935 948 Yes I git it right
(11:50 AM) thomas_Poland: exactly
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(11:51 AM) tomthetrader: Lunch time.......very boring tape ...almost flat
(11:51 AM) Fulkdaddy: Tom, not sure if you are a better trader or DJ???
(11:51 AM) thomas_Poland: we can have another selloff near 12:30
(11:51 AM) thomas_Poland: who is that grandpa singing?
(11:51 AM) tomthetrader: Hopefully SINGER ?
(11:51 AM) Fulkdaddy: Where do we end today, Thomas?
(11:51 AM) Fulkdaddy: DJ
(11:52 AM) Fulkdaddy:
(11:52 AM) thomas_Poland: no idea Dave today
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(11:52 AM) tomthetrader:
(11:52 AM) Fulkdaddy: 867
(11:52 AM) tomthetrader: 904
(11:52 AM) thomas_Poland: yes 904 is good number
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(11:53 AM) thomas_Poland: important sup/res for Spx
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(11:53 AM) tomthetrader: banks homebulders have to rollovernow to get downside
redliontrader: I mis-calculated the entry pricing for FXI and TDF.. they are corrected as 22.03 for FXI and 36.01 for FXI.. I used the wrong time bracket.. sorry for the confusion..
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(11:53 AM) thomas_Poland: I just realised that my short time 12:30 is exactly when Banana speaks
(11:54 AM) tomthetrader: don't think they can ..if we thought so we should jump on shprts now ..I don't think so ..i SAY higher ...WHICH IS WHY i AM LONG OF COURSE
(11:54 AM) thomas_Poland: sorry .. had to say it
(11:54 AM) tomthetrader: easy TP
(11:54 AM) tomthetrader: world dominance soon ...we may take over Gdansk
(11:54 AM) thomas_Poland: no way ... Germans tried
(11:54 AM) thomas_Poland: Russia tried
(11:55 AM) thomas_Poland: noone can
(11:55 AM) thomas_Poland: a lot of hammers here
(11:55 AM) tomthetrader: Thanks RED
redliontrader: for the record, my personal fills are: FXI 35.99 & TDF 22.00
(11:55 AM) tomthetrader: and thanks to all who wrote back with fills
(11:55 AM) tomthetrader: Thanks and please let usknow if there is anything we can do Red
(11:56 AM) tomthetrader: We did add DDM to IRA
(11:56 AM) tomthetrader: and we will look at Tradersfor BGU long
(11:56 AM) Freezinalberta: I missed DDM rose too fast.
(11:57 AM) Freezinalberta: in BGU at 31.00 instead
(11:57 AM) tomthetrader: thanks
redliontrader: Yes, I have us 2% short VIX options in Traders, 20%Short/10% Long Main, 10% Long IRA (DDM@22.75)
redliontrader: 27.75
(11:59 AM) tomthetrader: Lunch time now
(11:59 AM) Fulkdaddy: Tommy, you sound good today!
(11:59 AM) tomthetrader: Thanks!!!!
(12:00 PM) Freezinalberta: Where's home Tom?
(12:00 PM) tomthetrader: see that's how we should react...that is why Dave is so well treated here..compliments accepted for my singing
(12:00 PM) tomthetrader: Tallahassee Florida USA
(12:01 PM) Freezinalberta: Hell of a long way from Edmonton
(12:01 PM) tomthetrader: Yes and I am sure we would love to change places about 2-3x a year ..like now! for me
(12:02 PM) tomthetrader: 6 days of over 104 degrees
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(12:02 PM) tomthetrader: Don't stop Thomas
(12:02 PM) tomthetrader: Give us some Seiko times with conviction ?
(12:02 PM) tomthetrader: 9% down BA OUCH get that dreamliner in the air /
(12:05 PM) tomthetrader: had to
(12:06 PM) tomthetrader: "almost famous" best part of movie /
(12:06 PM) berniectx: think Tom should go on one the reality TV singing shows!!
(12:07 PM) tomthetrader: Reality would not treat me well Bern...so I live in fantasy 1
(12:12 PM) tomthetrader: inability to rally will give the bears a confidence not seen in 4-5 months
(12:14 PM) tomthetrader: oil may be shortable again here
(12:14 PM) tomthetrader: looking like a dead cat
(12:14 PM) tomthetrader: rimm looking dead cattish
(12:14 PM) ajayvee: time for BGU yet?
(12:14 PM) tomthetrader: is that a word
(12:14 PM) tomthetrader: deadcattish
(12:15 PM) tomthetrader: BGU very close for traders
(12:15 PM) tomthetrader: let's get 10% here with a close stop
(12:15 PM) tomthetrader: fills here at12:15 pm
(12:15 PM) tomthetrader: 10% long in tradrs with a close stop .20 cents back
(12:16 PM) tomthetrader: fills here at 12:15pm /
(12:16 PM) tomthetrader: 30.90
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(12:17 PM) tomthetrader: 30.90 it is
(12:18 PM) tomthetrader: unless anyone wnts to raise or lower ...I got filled at 30.90
(12:18 PM) ajayvee: yes, 30.90 here too
(12:18 PM) tomthetrader: stop at 30.60
(12:18 PM) tomthetrader: for now
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(12:30 PM) netherbow1: any opinion on PALM TOM ?
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(12:32 PM) hibuck2: NYSE A/D -303
(12:32 PM) hibuck2: $PCRCO 1.01
(12:32 PM) hibuck2: $TRIN .73 $TRIQE .75
(12:32 PM) hibuck2: $TNX 36.54 3.65
(12:33 PM) tomthetrader: Barack picking a fight
(12:33 PM) tomthetrader: Good for him
(12:33 PM) dhmohan1963: RIMM has it given adequate correction or need to go to 60
(12:33 PM) tomthetrader: what's another war here and there ?
(12:33 PM) tomthetrader: RIMM 62.00 is good long term buy
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(12:36 PM) berniectx: many crazy people that hate USA
(12:37 PM) Alert: Pres. Obama's news conf LIVE NOW on News Talk Online in the Radio/TV Section
(12:38 PM) hibuck2: + TICK 985
(12:39 PM) tomthetrader: BGU Stops at Break even
(12:39 PM) tomthetrader: DDM stops at Break even
(12:40 PM) tomthetrader: we should have no chance of losses on those 2 trades anyway ...we like that
(12:41 PM) hibuck2: TRINS dropping TRIN .65 TRIQE .75
(12:41 PM) tomthetrader: again stops at break even in DDM and BGU
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(12:46 PM) tomthetrader: Thank you
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(1:02 PM) tomthetrader: orcl ah
(1:02 PM) tomthetrader: earnings
(1:02 PM) tomthetrader: nq 1410 a buy
(1:02 PM) tomthetrader: 1419 now
(1:02 PM) tomthetrader: test todat
(1:02 PM) tomthetrader: today
(1:03 PM) tomthetrader: bad did to cover or good
(1:03 PM) tomthetrader: Good bid to cover
(1:03 PM) tomthetrader: as rates fall
(1:03 PM) tomthetrader: heavy demand /
(1:03 PM) tomthetrader: Aruj /
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(1:04 PM) tomthetrader: good auction ...haven't seen that much demand on b-c in weeks /
(1:04 PM) arujunaa: bid to cover fine. this is forced short covering. i wouldn't be surprised if we sold off briefly now unless stocks selloff again
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(1:05 PM) tomthetrader: I think stocks are about to rally hard for a while?
(1:05 PM) tomthetrader: just a guess ...unless news stops them
(1:05 PM) Fulkdaddy: 2 year is not that important though is it?
(1:05 PM) arujunaa: hope so. i need to buy alot more bonds
(1:05 PM) billbTN: just got back- hope so tom. i went long this am at 983
(1:05 PM) tomthetrader: I think they all are and when I see the best b-c in weeks it gets me giddy !
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(1:06 PM) tomthetrader: cannot stand to see rates rise in the next few weeks
(1:06 PM) tomthetrader: Stocks and binds have to get back on the paul Volcker bull run
(1:07 PM) tomthetrader: LOW inflation low growth low rates
(1:08 PM) arujunaa: bond will rally
(1:08 PM) billbTN: whoops 892 not 882
(1:08 PM) tomthetrader: we need that with a weak dollar
(1:08 PM) ajayvee: add to BGU?
(1:10 PM) tomthetrader: we ahve 700 at 30.90 we will add on weakness at close ...still risky here ....but getting better every minute
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(1:10 PM) ajayvee: thnx
(1:11 PM) tomthetrader: YW
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(1:12 PM) tomthetrader: 28.00 stops now on DDM
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(1:15 PM) tomthetrader: IRA has stops at 28.00 on DDM
(1:15 PM) tomthetrader: BGU in TRADERS 31.25
(1:16 PM) tomthetrader: stopped out of Traders BGU
(1:16 PM) tomthetrader: still on DDM stop 28.00
(1:18 PM) tomthetrader: 1;15pm
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(1:21 PM) tomthetrader: 28.10 stop DDM to lock in
(1:21 PM) tomthetrader: IRA profits
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(1:22 PM) tcb66: Aruj - Are you looking for a long entry point on bonds ahead of the Fed meeting tomorrow?
(1:22 PM) tomthetrader: 28.10 stopped on DDM IRA
(1:23 PM) tomthetrader: we are back to cash pretty much except Main fund
(1:25 PM) Harrod_t: Did we decide on doing anything with Option Monster?
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(1:25 PM) tomthetrader: I am negotiating a better deal and will have a answer by friday
(1:25 PM) Harrod_t: Thanks
(1:26 PM) tomthetrader: DAVE will know more on this spec long
(1:27 PM) thomas_Poland: Are we going long Fulk???
(1:27 PM) thomas_Poland:
(1:27 PM) tomthetrader: Yes...who would not buy DAVE long ?
(1:27 PM) tomthetrader: It is a winner
(1:27 PM) tomthetrader: Just look at the stock since we recommended it
(1:28 PM) Fulkdaddy: I think we go lower.
(1:28 PM) tomthetrader: they are expanding like crazy waiting lines nightly
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(1:28 PM) Fulkdaddy: ahhhhh
(1:30 PM) tomthetrader: anyone been to a famous dave's BBQ
(1:31 PM) energy2x: good food
(1:31 PM) tomthetrader: yes
(1:31 PM) tomthetrader: and a huge profit / earnings story
(1:31 PM) energy2x: seems to be a busy place here in my town
(1:31 PM) tomthetrader: looks like on the yearly chart a huge W bottom in here
(1:32 PM) tomthetrader: went from 4-7 on one earnings report
(1:32 PM) tomthetrader: we bought on the 2nd KISS
(1:32 PM) tomthetrader: and are happy
(1:33 PM) tomthetrader: ORCL earnings ah
(1:34 PM) ajayvee: scored some POT on a good day
(1:35 PM) tomthetrader: yes...POT BUYERSARE WELCOME HERE
(1:36 PM) tomthetrader: What is up with Melissa Lee ?
(1:36 PM) ajayvee: it helps ratings
(1:37 PM) Fulkdaddy: She is the main interviewer now that Dylan is gone...
(1:37 PM) tomthetrader: she is provocative to say the least
(1:37 PM) tomthetrader: thatis more of a slip than a dress
(1:38 PM) tomthetrader: she has posed near nude in many trade magazines
(1:38 PM) tomthetrader: I think I like Dylan better
(1:38 PM) tomthetrader:
(1:38 PM) Fulkdaddy: I like Melissa
(1:38 PM) Fulkdaddy: Dylan too opinionated
(1:39 PM) tomthetrader: yes ..but controversial..really jumped on the throw the bums out bankers movement
(1:39 PM) Fulkdaddy: I did like that part of him
(1:39 PM) tomthetrader: which he couldn't pursue GE says no go
(1:40 PM) tomthetrader: we will take a 10% position in TNA at limit 25.32
(1:41 PM) tomthetrader: 1:41pm 25.26
(1:41 PM) tomthetrader: TNA 25.26 should get it
(1:41 PM) tomthetrader: 10% long traders
(1:41 PM) tomthetrader: 25.25 now
(1:42 PM) netherbow1: 25.25
(1:42 PM) tomthetrader: 24.99 stop
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(1:54 PM) Fulkdaddy: Kass thinks there is no Edge now to the market...so use smaller position sizes
(1:54 PM) Fulkdaddy: what TTT happens to be doing
(1:54 PM) tomthetrader: agree 100%
(1:54 PM) desertone: 2nd time thrown out of PT
(1:54 PM) tomthetrader: sorry...I have been good since Friday's debacle
(1:55 PM) desertone: Nah np
(1:55 PM) stevefl_64: what Thomas says about VV I say about PT
(1:56 PM) desertone: LOL
(1:57 PM) tomthetrader: there is only 1 good thing about Platalk ...FREE and FREE
(1:58 PM) tomthetrader: ES would recommend a futures buy of ES soon
(1:58 PM) tomthetrader: anyone want to enter a ES Long ?
(1:58 PM) ajayvee: sure, I'll go with you
(1:58 PM) eman11: Count me in on ES
(1:58 PM) tomthetrader: Ok let's get a contract and play it here
(1:59 PM) tomthetrader: buy now
(1:59 PM) tomthetrader: fills?
(1:59 PM) tomthetrader: we arelong 1 contract ES at ?
(1:59 PM) ajayvee: 888.50
(1:59 PM) eman11: 888.75
(2:00 PM) tomthetrader: 888.50
(2:00 PM) tomthetrader: stopped out of TNA failed trade
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(2:00 PM) tomthetrader: stop 884.50-75
(2:01 PM) tomthetrader: POOP on TNA broad market getting hit
(2:02 PM) tomthetrader: damn stops ...should have never put them so close
(2:02 PM) tomthetrader: POOP
(2:02 PM) tomthetrader: of course they search and destroyed al stops
(2:03 PM) tomthetrader: Co--- su.----ers
(2:03 PM) tomthetrader: \sorry
(2:03 PM) tomthetrader: Cookie monsters
(2:03 PM) eman11: Do you see us rallying into the close?
(2:03 PM) tomthetrader: yes
(2:03 PM) ajayvee: I'm using a 2% trailing and am still ok
(2:04 PM) tomthetrader: best to put 2% trailing than hard stops but day trading sometimes we get a feel of lows ..today was just a blatant wipe out of stops
(2:06 PM) netherbow1: AAPL waking up
(2:07 PM) tcb66: Where are you looking to get short Crude again?
(2:07 PM) tomthetrader: yes...good buy here longterm
(2:07 PM) tomthetrader: got it's correction in and now QLD and Q's should rally
(2:07 PM) tomthetrader: NQ etc
(2:07 PM) tomthetrader: at least back to last rally highs
(2:08 PM) tomthetrader: made anew low on TNA on our stop out ...miserable trade...
(2:08 PM) tomthetrader: those in the ES trade move you stops up a point
(2:09 PM) tomthetrader: a/d line helping ES hurting broad
(2:10 PM) tomthetrader: we will go with strength
(2:10 PM) tomthetrader: TNA will make me mad today
(2:10 PM) tomthetrader: You can count on it
(2:10 PM) ajayvee: SSO better than TNA
(2:10 PM) tomthetrader: yes...I was going there SSO but got greedy
(2:11 PM) tomthetrader: worst emotion of a trader...trying to get more than you deserve !
(2:11 PM) tomthetrader: Buy strength not weakness
(2:11 PM) tomthetrader: and you will be better off
(2:12 PM) tomthetrader: raise stops up again on es unless you have trailing in
(2:12 PM) tomthetrader: I am at break even on ES
(2:12 PM) tomthetrader: stops
(2:13 PM) tomthetrader: look at TNA go
(2:15 PM) ajayvee: tom, still looking for a 904 close?
(2:17 PM) Harrod_t: Thanks for the ES trade.
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(2:27 PM) tomthetrader: Yes
(2:27 PM) tomthetrader: Yes...we have to take what we can get here but very pleased with ES
(2:28 PM) tomthetrader: all indices 3.33 at 2:28 !
(2:29 PM) tomthetrader: ES trade you are welcome Harrod T
(2:29 PM) ajayvee: got stopped on ES for +3 points, thanks
(2:29 PM) tomthetrader: yep me too
(2:30 PM) tomthetrader: 150 dollars
(2:30 PM) tomthetrader: still may be able to take on more shot lojng
(2:30 PM) tomthetrader: long
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(2:47 PM) tomthetrader: I still think we can rally
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(2:47 PM) tomthetrader: ES staying with buyers
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(2:48 PM) ajayvee: y
(2:48 PM) energy2x: y
(2:49 PM) eman11: y
(2:49 PM) netherbow1: y
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(2:50 PM) eman11: Are you planning on buying ES into the close?
(2:51 PM) tomthetrader: possible e ....i would like to get ira long ddm for 220 points also
(2:53 PM) tomthetrader: Rally
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(2:54 PM) Three_Taverns3: hello, traders
(2:54 PM) tomthetrader: hey 3
(2:54 PM) tomthetrader: long time no see
(2:54 PM) tomthetrader: they treating you well
(2:54 PM) Three_Taverns3: how goes the battle?
(2:55 PM) Three_Taverns3: lol. yes, sir
(2:55 PM) tomthetrader: it goes
(2:55 PM) Three_Taverns3: yep. it goes.
(2:55 PM) azags: I was able to sell to open naked qid july 36 calls at 1.5, a bullish position. So far only 45 contracts. I was trying for 100
(2:58 PM) eman11: I missed the buy point for ES on the audio?
(2:58 PM) Three_Taverns3: 890 area is what tom said
(2:58 PM) eman11: Thanks
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(3:00 PM) tomthetrader: may put a limit to buy 1000 sh of DDM at 27.90
(3:01 PM) eman11: Thanks I just picked up some ES at 890 will add another contract at 888-888.50 if we hit that low
(3:02 PM) tomthetrader: BUY 1000 Shares of DDM at 27.90
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(3:03 PM) Three_Taverns3: sounds like tom is nailing the market again.
(3:04 PM) tomthetrader: yes...with the hammer I use to hit my7 head
(3:04 PM) Three_Taverns3: lol.
(3:04 PM) tomthetrader: anyone get filled at 27.90 ?
(3:05 PM) tomthetrader: YRCW out of index
(3:05 PM) ajayvee: not me
(3:05 PM) eman11: Nope
(3:05 PM) tomthetrader: not me ...did you see a bid at 27.90 /
(3:05 PM) Harrod_t: not at 27.91 either
(3:06 PM) tomthetrader: I saw 27.91 filled
(3:06 PM) tomthetrader: 94-96 now...let's PULL theORDER now
(3:08 PM) Freezinalberta: in ddm or out?
(3:08 PM) tomthetrader: OUT NO TRADE
(3:08 PM) tomthetrader: looking at BGU now
(3:08 PM) Freezinalberta: txs
(3:09 PM) tomthetrader: yes ...we have to regroup as the 3:00pm smart money is selling harder than expected
(3:11 PM) eman11: I bought BGU at 31.03, should I set stop loss at 1%
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(3:11 PM) tomthetrader: yes or just set BGU now .20 cents back
(3:11 PM) tomthetrader: selling should be over for now
(3:11 PM) eman11: Thanks
(3:12 PM) eman11: I added another es contract at 888.50
(3:12 PM) tomthetrader: OK
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(3:12 PM) tomthetrader: I am quite sure you will be OK
(3:13 PM) Three_Taverns3: so long, traders. make a million.
(3:14 PM) tomthetrader: VIX call options up there
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(3:14 PM) tomthetrader: OK 3
(3:14 PM) tomthetrader: take care
(3:14 PM) tomthetrader: 155K - 36K calls v.uts
(3:14 PM) tomthetrader: puts
(3:16 PM) tomthetrader: 28.35 DDM target on close is it worth a trade ?
(3:17 PM) tomthetrader: back to UNCH on DDM
(3:18 PM) eman11: Yes I think it's worth it - $350 is not bad.
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(3:18 PM) billbTN: i have some es at 892 and at 888.75
(3:20 PM) berniectx: think you caution is warranted right now very hard to trade this market again as always
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(3:22 PM) berniectx: one of my indicators shows pretty flat tomorrow and down hard on Wednesday
(3:23 PM) ajayvee: tomorrow IS Wednesday
(3:23 PM) berniectx: sorry down Thurs who knows not me ???
(3:23 PM) ajayvee:
(3:24 PM) tomthetrader:
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(3:29 PM) tomthetrader: TICK and VIX heading same way /
(3:29 PM) tomthetrader: rally
(3:29 PM) ajayvee: my ES stop already in the profit area
(3:31 PM) ajayvee: stopped for another 1 point
(3:32 PM) tomthetrader: Yes
(3:32 PM) tomthetrader: a little everywhere helps the utility bills
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(3:36 PM) tomthetrader: Just being as honest as possible
(3:36 PM) tomthetrader: and hope it helps you
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(3:37 PM) ajayvee: I'll struggle along with you
(3:37 PM) tomthetrader:
(3:38 PM) ajayvee: although my TNA position is still working
(3:38 PM) tomthetrader: yes ...I will cuss that for a few weeks
(3:39 PM) tomthetrader: My problem is if we head to HOD it may take some away from tomorrow
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(3:40 PM) ajayvee: so if ur long you get out at the close is it is HOD or hold if it is lower
(3:40 PM) thomas_Poland: we are just at the opening price in ES
(3:40 PM) tomthetrader: that is our tough decision a....yes I would exit and reenter on any dips in ES overnight or pre market
(3:41 PM) azags: I also sold to open dxd July 52 calls 100 contracts at 1.65 also a bullish position
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(3:43 PM) tomthetrader: I'd have rather seen more selling pressure this morning that took us closer to support around 880 and gave us multiple down days into the FOMC decision, something which has led to a rebound on FOMC day every time since 2007.
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(3:50 PM) ajayvee: RUT a real laggard
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(3:53 PM) stevefl_64: wow Ralph makeyourpoorer on CNBC havent seen him in ages. acctually like him (as a person)
(3:53 PM) tomthetrader: Funny
(3:53 PM) tomthetrader: he was astalwart in the90's
(3:53 PM) stevefl_64: he was.
(3:54 PM) stevefl_64: he is teacher of technicals now
(3:55 PM) JR Roden: What's the call for tomorrow morning - gap up or down?
(3:55 PM) Freezinalberta: commodities up or down?
(3:56 PM) Freezinalberta: $USD up or down?
(3:56 PM) PremR: oil is up strong
(3:56 PM) PremR: usd down
(3:56 PM) richardt_5: just back after taking the dog to the vet.... do we have a play for the end of the day
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(4:00 PM) tomthetrader: Flat
(4:00 PM) tomthetrader: USD down
(4:00 PM) jbljudy: Gentlemen: Dr. Oz on Oprah TODAY @4pm ... dedicated to men's health. All male audience.
(4:00 PM) tomthetrader: Thanks ..you are always lookingout for us THANK YOU !
(4:00 PM) tcb66: RUT closing at the lows
(4:01 PM) DE_TTT: ORCL Oracle prelim $0.46, ex items vs $0.44 First Call consensus; revs $6.86 bln vs $6.47 bln First Call consensus
(4:01 PM) tomthetrader: Good point TCB
(4:01 PM) tomthetrader: I was scared in that TNA trade
(4:01 PM) tomthetrader: for good reason
(4:01 PM) ajayvee: TNA closed at LOD
(4:01 PM) eman11: Stopped out ES 809.50. Great calls todat Tom
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(4:01 PM) tomthetrader: Thanks good work
(4:02 PM) richardt_5: See you all tomorrow
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(4:04 PM) netherbow1: thankyou TOM
(4:06 PM) desertone: Night Tom went short at the close BGZ calls and SPY puts.
(4:06 PM) ajayvee: so all this selling, is this good for tomorrow?
(4:08 PM) ajayvee: POT and FCX had good days
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(4:14 PM) netherbow1: ORCL green - shld be a plus for mkt if it opens that way
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(4:20 PM) ajayvee: gee, is NKE down because Tiger didn't win?
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(4:59 PM) Alert: The latest on the crisis in Iran NOW on News Talk Online in the Radio/TV Section [Free Video]
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(5:24 PM) tomthetrader: yes ....I think the weak dollar play is luring those back in...
(5:24 PM) tomthetrader: I got calls on my POT and FCX
(5:25 PM) tomthetrader: underwtwr
(5:25 PM) tomthetrader: made good comebacks
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(5:29 PM) Alert: The latest on the crisis in Iran NOW on News Talk Online in the Radio/TV Section [Free Video]
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(7:00 PM) richardt_5: Are you still on Tom?
(7:02 PM) richardt_5: I'd like to ask you Mr. pointfisher if you are referring to Lighthouse Point....... N. of Pompano?
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(7:04 PM) stevefl_64: richard you here in S.FL?
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(7:36 PM) ntb10071981: anyone in here
(7:37 PM) ntb10071981: guess not
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(8:58 PM) tomthetrader: ES U9 [10] E-MINI S&P 500 Sep '09 20:47:52 EDT 889.25 -1.00 890.50 890.50 888.50
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(9:38 PM) ajayvee: ES goes wild in a 2 point range. my just how do we keep up
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